Be prepared to be saddened, sickened and infuriated.
To all you women, are you prepared for a world in which roving gangs of thugs are waiting to rape you because you aren't dressed like this?
Men, is this the world you would like to live in, where you will never see another woman's hair, legs or even arms, except your own wife's?
Child rape in Sweden has increased significantly with Muslim immigration - do you wish to see this happen the world over?
BOYCOTT NIKE FOR STARTERS.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 219 Newer› Newest»so you think Islam is a new religion? the roots of this religion go back to 1400 years ago and since then non-muslims have lived the way they wanted and will live free just like Muslims. Why do you assholes only go to afganistan and take shots of women, malaysia turkey iran indonesia are all Muslims and they don't cover their faces, you fuck. STOP being bias. Go fuck yourself you fuckin Zionist
Javad said...
so you think Islam is a new religion? the roots of this religion go back to 1400 years ago and since then non-muslims have lived the way they wanted and will live free just like Muslims. Why do you assholes only go to afganistan and take shots of women, malaysia turkey iran indonesia are all Muslims and they don't cover their faces, you fuck. STOP being bias. Go fuck yourself you fuckin Zionist.
Thank you for your peaceful and loving message. Your concern for me and other women is truly striking.
The facts will remain, however, that this disease of oppressing women in the name of Islam is spreading all over the planet. And, no, you and they are not free - you have been conditioned since birth to be a Muslim, most likely.
And we can see from your hostile, angry and aggressive message what the result of your conditioning is.
Thank you for providing me with an example of the sort of violent and bigoted mentality we are trying to prevent from sweeping the world.
FREE YOURSELVES FROM DIVISIVE AND HATEFUL RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGIES THAT CAUSE YOU TO SPEW VENOM ALL OVER YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEING.
By the way, we who have been studying the issue without bias are unfortunately all too well aware that this oppression of both men and women dates back 1,400 years. Just ask any Persian who has escaped the enslavement in Iran - and apparently you agree that women in Iran are oppressed - what suffering their people have endured since this Arab cult of death invaded their country and enslaved their people some 1,300 years ago.
have you never noticed that these so called modern vices are the product of western education and beliefs.the jew has so much filth in his holy book about the rape of children and women its amazing that its not banned!
why has every prophet condemned the jews for being the devils in human form that they are?
when have they ever listened to gods voice as a whole nation in history? they rejected all and killed all like the good devils that they are.
they vilification of islam is not new,it always has been and the koran warned the muslims that the worst in violence against them will be those who call themselves jews, little is it they believe in gods word!!
YES, the moral standard should not be covering women to protect them, it's to uncover! Hustler, Penthouse and all those porno-rape flicks are the epitome of western civilization, never have women been so honored and upheld in society. Sexual harassment in the workplace, date rape drugs, gang bangs, prostitution, mistresses, wife swapping are the greatest things since swiss cheese. Dang those burqas man!
Anonymous said...
have you never noticed that these so called modern vices are the product of western education and beliefs.the jew has so much filth in his holy book about the rape of children and women its amazing that its not banned!
why has every prophet condemned the jews for being the devils in human form that they are?
when have they ever listened to gods voice as a whole nation in history? they rejected all and killed all like the good devils that they are.
they vilification of islam is not new,it always has been and the koran warned the muslims that the worst in violence against them will be those who call themselves jews, little is it they believe in gods word!!
In the first place, there aren't roving gangs of Jewish thugs raping women who aren't covered.
Nor are Jews hanging and stoning people in Iran, or beheading and cutting off people's limbs in Saudi Arabia. Nor are they hacking off women and girl's genitals in Egypt. And so on, ad nauseam.
Secondly, we are all well aware of the atrocities of the Old Testament and the various religious scams, including the creation of Christianity. What that would mean, however, is that Islam is also false, since it is based on the Bible in large part. If you ban the Book, you will have to ban the Koran.
Quotes from and about Judaism
Quote from the Koran and about Islam
"Every prophet" has certainly not condemned all Jews for being "the devils..." If all Jews are devils, why do you consider Abraham, Moses, Joshua and Jesus to be "prophets?" Why did God supposedly choose Israel? Doesn't it teach in Islam that the Bible is indeed a holy scripture? Why would God give his holy writings to Jews, if they are diabolical?
"...the koran warned the muslims that the worst in violence against them will be those who call themselves jews..."
Where does it say that in the Koran?
In any event, it should be obvious by now that I do not believe that the Koran is "God's word" in the first place. Nor do I believe that the god in the Koran is the god of the cosmos.
What is God?
Why is there so much hatred, anger and violence associated with Islam? Why do I get messages full of hatred either towards myself or towards Jews?
Where is the love within Islam?
A Celebration of Life
We're all free to choose what we believe in but strange beliefs cause strange behaviour. A few years ago some people in the states drank poison so they could meet after death in a UFO. Many people blindly follow their idea of a 'perfect man' who consummated his marriage to a 9 year old gitrl when he was 52 - and flew 1,000kms on a flying horse in one night. Just how 'free' such people are in choosing their beliefs is another matter. In 99.9% of the cases is was not arrived at thropugh logical thought and an earnest desire for truth. It was handed down to them from their parents - who blindly accepted it because it was what everyone else believed. I mean, coyuld any rational person come up with such garbled fantasies and get other saner individuals to believe it nowadays? (without threatening them with death if they did not believe it?)
Anonymous said...
YES, the moral standard should not be covering women to protect them, it's to uncover! Hustler, Penthouse and all those porno-rape flicks are the epitome of western civilization, never have women been so honored and upheld in society. Sexual harassment in the workplace, date rape drugs, gang bangs, prostitution, mistresses, wife swapping are the greatest things since swiss cheese. Dang those burqas man!
And you believe the alternative to abusing women sexually is to bag them up, abusing them further?
How about men learning how to control themselves? How about human beings finally becoming enlightened about sexuality?
Sexually repressed people are aggressive and sexually violent. Sexually satisfied people are healthy and happy.
Islam does not create sexually satisfied people in any way, shape or form. It is not an alternative to hedonistic abuses.
Do Muslim apologists engage in anything other than the logical fallacy of tu quoque or "you too" finger-pointing?
Once again, there's NO concern for women being compelled to dress like this because men can't control their animalistic urges. Instead, we are going to throw out all sorts of angry and vicious accusations and distractions elsewhere.
Here's the bottom line:
NO SANE WOMAN WANTS TO LIVE COVERED UP LIKE THIS. IT'S NOT HEALTHY, PERIOD. IT DEPRIVES WOMEN OF AIR AND SUNLIGHT FOR ONE THING.
NO SANE MAN WANTS TO SEE WOMEN BAGGED UP LIKE THIS. NO HEALTHY MAN CANNOT CONTROL HIS SEXUAL IMPULSES SUCH THAT HE MUST COMMIT VIOLENCE AGAINST AN UNCOVERED WOMAN.
Grow up, become awakened, develop your humanity and stop pointing fingers everywhere else.
It's too bad women can't go topless in our society. I mean shame on us for denying women freedom of expression. If people want to walk around nude, then it is their business - we shouldn't mandate morality on other people.
And if men get too horny from that, then that is their fault.
Why aren't you attacking black people if you are so concerned about rape. Look at the statistics of black male on white female rape then look at the reverse. Or better yet, look at south africa.
After all, women's rights should be upheld regardless of religion, culture, or race. Shame on those black people for not being able to control themselves.
Anonymous said...
It's too bad women can't go topless in our society. I mean shame on us for denying women freedom of expression. If people want to walk around nude, then it is their business - we shouldn't mandate morality on other people.
And if men get too horny from that, then that is their fault.
Now we're talking sense.
Of course, there are too many people I'd rather not see naked or topless, male or female. :)
Perhaps we should start bagging ugly men as well. These mullahs and imams aren't very attractive.
You need to learn the difference between culture and religion and race. Not all places that practice islam are as strict as you make them out to be in these videos. Not all cultures and governemnts practice the Koran as literally as you make it seem like they do.
If you demonize a religion based soley on its writings, then you have to be fair and demonize the talmud and the bible as well.
how about children going naked? is that okay with you? 13 year olds?
Anonymous said...
Why aren't you attacking black people if you are so concerned about rape. Look at the statistics of black male on white female rape then look at the reverse. Or better yet, look at south africa.
After all, women's rights should be upheld regardless of religion, culture, or race. Shame on those black people for not being able to control themselves.
Agreed. Much of the gang rape going on in European countries that we're addressing here is also divided along racial lines. Regardless of the motivation, obviously, rape is evil.
However, many of these thugs are using ISLAM as an excuse to gang rape white (i.e., Scandinavian) women. Islam allows for just about any crime to be committed against people who are perceived not to be believers, whether "dirty kaffirs" or apostates.
And, yes, yes, I am well aware of the problems with Christianity and Judaism - I have been criticizing them as well for decades. Now, Islam is the nail sticking up the highest, which means it will be hit the hardest.
And frankly, at this point in history I would much rather live in a non-Muslim country, regardless of whether it's being run by Christians or Jews. (Or Buddhists or Hindus or Atheists.)
who do you think runs the porn industry?? JEWS do, not muslims! and why do u only mention iranians who flee the country when shah was kicked out?! those people are minorities but the majority who live in iran are mostly living good, and the problems we have in iran is not becoz of islam, but are from assholes who are fuckin the country in the name of islam
Anonymous said...
You need to learn the difference between culture and religion and race. Not all places that practice islam are as strict as you make them out to be in these videos. Not all cultures and governemnts practice the Koran as literally as you make it seem like they do.
If you demonize a religion based soley on its writings, then you have to be fair and demonize the talmud and the bible as well.
No, I'm sorry, I really do not "need" to differentiate between culture and religion. I am quite aware of the difference. The Koran says that a woman should cover up everything but her face, hands and feet - that's religion. And those practicing it do not consider themselves "extreme" at all. I am also quite aware of the differences between Muslim countries, although all of them are harsher than I would prefer life to be.
If you are going to lecture someone, you should try to check out his or her track record. I have "demonized" - or, more correctly, critiqued Judaism and Christianity quite soundly online for over a dozen years, including having three books published that do just that.
The Christ Conspiracy
Suns of God
Who Was Jesus?
Anonymous said...
how about children going naked? is that okay with you? 13 year olds?
No, you perverted sociopath. Why would you even think of such a thing?
Why do you think that children going naked is perverted? Is it because you've been told to by our society?
Or maybe that it could cause male lust and possible rape?
Why do we where clothes anyway when we don't have to for our physical protection from the environment?
Perhaps is there some social reason?
Shouldn't children be allowed to go nude if they want to? Why do we as a society enforce our moral beleifs on them. After all, if males lust after them, it is their fault.
Javad said...
who do you think runs the porn industry?? JEWS do, not muslims! and why do u only mention iranians who flee the country when shah was kicked out?! those people are minorities but the majority who live in iran are mostly living good, and the problems we have in iran is not becoz of islam, but are from assholes who are fuckin the country in the name of islam
So you agree that Muslims - the mullahs - are screwing up Iran?
The Persians I'm talking about find it offensive that their country is under the domination of an alien cult out of the desert Why is that so difficult to understand? If you're Persian, why do you follow a cult created by Arabs? Go back to your roots and toss off this alien cult.
The Persians whom I've met who have tossed off this alien Arab cult and become freethinkers are some of the smartest and nicest - and happiest - people I've ever encountered.
How could the life of the majority of Iranians be good, if the mullahs rule with an iron fist?
Iran Today
The porn industry wouldn't be a factor if people weren't sexually repressed - mostly by religion. Take away the consumers, and there wouldn't be a business.
None of these organized religions - especially Islam - has a healthy attitude towards sex. And THAT'S what runs the porn industry.
Not sure why my post was censored...
If burkas are bad for women, then why should wearing any clothes, even by children, be an issue that is imposed upon by society?
After all, if children want to go naked, shouldn't it be their choice? Why should we accept a society or religion that oppresses children?
After all, if men or women can't control themselves over the nudity, then that is their fault, not the children's.
Anonymous said...
Why do you think that children going naked is perverted? Is it because you've been told to by our society?
Or maybe that it could cause male lust and possible rape?
Why do we where clothes anyway when we don't have to for our physical protection from the environment?
Perhaps is there some social reason?
Shouldn't children be allowed to go nude if they want to? Why do we as a society enforce our moral beleifs on them. After all, if males lust after them, it is their fault.
Nice try. I'm sure they'd be just fine running around Polynesian beaches - before their ancestors' heads were screwed with by missionaries.
Let's not be ridiculous here - let's confine our discussion to consenting adults. Your stab at relativism is trivial and distracting - if not perverted - which is apparently your motive. Leave the innocent children out of it, please.
Here are the facts: Women are being raped and beaten for showing their legs, arms and hair.
your only looking to the issue from one perspective. I'm a Muslim, I've lived in Europe for many years and there's no doubt they are more free compared to the Iran but why do you blame it all on Islam? why don't you look at the policy which US has towards Iran? maybe you don't know but I know it sucks and its very brutal.
There's no place for porn industry in Muslim countries because they are fully banned from operating in those countries.
I'm a Muslim, I'm nice to my friends, and I'm happy :) and you've probably only countered the Persians in US. There are tons of Iranian scientists which practice Islam and are also very good people inside Iran but unfortunately as I said your one sided and have never had the chance to communicate with Iranians inside the country.
Anonymous said...
Not sure why my post was censored...
If burkas are bad for women, then why should wearing any clothes, even by children, be an issue that is imposed upon by society?
After all, if children want to go naked, shouldn't it be their choice? Why should we accept a society or religion that oppresses children?
After all, if men or women can't control themselves over the nudity, then that is their fault, not the children's.
Nobody's post was censored. But yours will be, if you keep going down the naked children road.
In fact, healthwise all human beings would do well to run around naked in the sunlight.
That being said, we do live in a culture with other people, and we do have some social norms. Again, we are talking about consenting adults - are you saying that women aren't consenting adults who should determine whether or not they wish to be bagged up? The vast majority, I would wager, do not wish to be bagged up, if given the choice.
And there's a huge difference between wearing a bag and being naked - somewhere in between would seem to be acceptable.
Again, leave the kiddies out of it, or your posts will be censored.
Hello Acharya....I'm the guy who makes the MP3 and WMA files for the Jeff Rense Show subscribers. I know you were on recently and though I prepared that show I've been too busy to listen to it (I teach English at a college in Korea. I have seen some of your Youtube Videos and comments. I happen to be a Christian Palestinian; my mother was a refugee from Haifa in 1948 when the zionists came and stole Palestine from their rightful owners. Due to my heritage, I've been exposed to a lot of Moslems. I want you to know that your attacks on all these religions are a bit obsessive and self righteous. The fundamentalist Moslems are not real Moslems, they were created and funded by western influences as have irrational Christian fundamentalists. Your characterization of Islam is incredibly narrow and incomplete.
Hany Hanna
caldude@gmail.com
morality is relative and practical to the society it was designed for. In Africa, there are plenty of cases where people go around practically naked.
Perhaps in arabian society, the covering of up was due mainly to rapes, kidnappings, adultry and other social problems caused by such.
Perhaps Islam tried to solve these issues by covering the women up. I'm not saying that this theory is correct, or if it was, then it was the right thing to do. But it may have been done for practical reasons and reasons that made sense for that society (at that time at least). Yes, it was unfair to the women of that time. But the alternatives might have been worse if viewed from a certain societal level (at least at that time).
It's the same reason why many religions like Islam (and even the bible), say not to eat pork. It's because pork contains many parasites which happen to also readily infect humans. Many of these things in religions are born out because of problems within the society. The religion is a response to those problems as it tries to prevent them - even if it does create other problems.
And yes, I don't like the fact that women have to wear burkas in many societies. But I'm not going to single out the whole entire religion for it. Religion is what you make of it (or rather what a society makes of it). Not every society takes religion as seriously as some others do. There are many muslims who live in societies that do not have to wear burkas. It's only in certain countries, certain areas that have to.
hi caldude how are you?? I agree with you 100 percent and yeah Israel sucks. Please tell Rense to stop posting those ant-Islam articles. It's not about criticizing Islam, criticism and talk between religions is very helpful, but you know all the anti-islam articles which he refers to are all bias and the people who write these articles are bloggers who dont have enough knowledge to talk about these issues, in fact scholars are the people who we should listen to. Please tell him this.
caldude said...
I have seen some of your Youtube Videos and comments. I happen to be a Christian Palestinian; my mother was a refugee from Haifa in 1948 when the zionists came and stole Palestine from their rightful owners. Due to my heritage, I've been exposed to a lot of Moslems. I want you to know that your attacks on all these religions are a bit obsessive and self righteous. The fundamentalist Moslems are not real Moslems, they were created and funded by western influences as have irrational Christian fundamentalists. Your characterization of Islam is incredibly narrow and incomplete.
Thanks. Are you familiar with the work of Brigitte Gabriel? She has a somewhat different take on the Muslim population of Palestine. In light of that fact, perhaps you are the one with "an incredibly narrow and incomplete characterization of Islam"?
You really don't want to go there with the Palestinians, do you? The Palestinians are being raised as the most fanatical of all Muslims, and they frequently engage in dishonor killings, child abuse/brainwashing with hatred, etc. At this point in history, the Palestinians are some of the worst examples of Muslims you could possibly raise up.
My "attacks" on Islam are more than "self-righteous and obsessive," they are absolutely necessary, because so few are willing or courageous enough to address a serious problem that is leading squarely to the destruction of human civilization.
Let me spell it out:
I do not want to live under Islamic domination. I do not want to see the United States Constitution fall to sharia law. I do not want to be a Muslim. I do not want my descendants to be Muslims.
The way we are going at this point, whatever remnant is left of the human race in the next few decades, Islam stands poised to enslave the entire world - and you too will not escape the Wahhabism/Salafism that is encroaching everywhere, regardless of how broad you may feel your vision of Islam to be. It is Wahhabism/Salafism that is on the rise and that has the BILLION$ in petrodollar$.
Will such enslavement eventually end? Yes, of course, because the human race will eventually end. But I for one am not going to go down without a fight to NOT be enslaved under whatever form of Islam comes my way.
My "incredibly narrow and incomplete" view of Islam is based on the Koran, the Hadiths and the "five pillars of Islam," for the most part. What you believe is Islam is irrelevant, as the most fervently religious Muslims will tell you.
I only agree with one of the five pillars - charity/zakat. The rest constitute Arab cultic nonsense. And even charity would not be necessary AT ALL if there were truly a good and merciful god in charge of everything. In fact, the very idea of charity pretty much disproves the existence of such a god.
Such is my objection to ALL organized religion in the first place, including and especially Islam.
Acharya S your funny. at first I was pissed off but now you make me laugh!!! I'm Shia and am aainst wahabism but come on, billions of dollars from oil and dominance?? say that to David Rockefeller and he's gonna laugh at you, you know why? coz he has 300 trillion dollars and hasn't managed to achieve the new world order which he wishes for. I know where all this attacking of Islam comes from, it comes from the Illuminati and when the world economy collapses they are going to start creating a one world government and I have no doubt the first people who are going to oppose the new world order are going to be Muslims, and thats why they are trying hard to destroy Islam, they will do this not to save humanity from "Islam" but they do it for money, power and full dominance of earth and I mean everything on earth.
Anyways jut stop being a pain in the ass and try to save your own country coz its fallen in that hands of bad people.
so you think Islam is a new religion? the roots of this religion go back to 1400 years ago
Which does make it the newest cultic to break off the Abrahamic religion.
they vilification of islam is not new,it always has been and the koran warned the muslims that the worst in violence against them will be those who call themselves jews, little is it they believe in gods word!!
Oh yes and if Muslims concur a group of people who are not Muslim, they are to kill them or enslave them and only if they convert can they be freed. Women are forced to be concubines. Nice. NOT! It's all in the Koran though.
What you hear about women in the U.S. is an extremely small minority.
And if men get too horny from that, then that is their fault.
Yes it is. They need to stop having cavemen mentally and put their brains back into their skull where they belong, instead of using their penises for brains.
Why aren't you attacking black people if you are so concerned about rape. Look at the statistics of black male on white female rape then look at the reverse. Or better yet, look at south africa.
After all, women's rights should be upheld regardless of religion, culture, or race. Shame on those black people for not being able to control themselves.
That's BS. I'm a White woman and I have not been raped by a Black man. Black people are a lot better than you seem to think. Maybe you should get to know a few.
If burkas are bad for women, then why should wearing any clothes, even by children, be an issue that is imposed upon by society?
Like so many religions that attempt to control the masses with the use of shame, guilt, and imposition of low self-esteem, those sacks do the same thing to women. They are not good enough to show their hair and/or faces in case a cavemen comes by and rapes them. *rolling eyes*
Not every society takes religion as seriously as some others do. There are many muslims who live in societies that do not have to wear burkas. It's only in certain countries, certain areas that have to.
Where are these Islamics where women don't have to cover their heads in shame, but rather allow it to hang freely and show their faces without fear? Where are these Muslim women that we can actually have a converstation with and be able to look at their faces without the distraction of a burkha or hijab? I haven't seen them. I won't talk to anyone who looks like they could be hiding a machette and/or I can't see their face.
I don't want want my decendents to be Muslim either. I don't want dogs killed to near extermination either, just because of some superstition nor do I want many animals slaughtered for some superstitious animal sacrifice.
No, don't mention pork thing again either. I'm a vegetarian who believes animals should have rights too.
they will do this not to save humanity from "Islam" but they do it for money, power and full dominance of earth and I mean everything on earth.
One deity at a time. Rockerfeller is less of a threat even if his god is money.
Women and children can be protected without the burka. First, educate men and then place upon them the cyltural as well as legal exepctation that they will behave in a civilized respectful lawful way no matter how women are dressed. Then actievly prosecute each and every one who commits a violent crime against a woman or a child,or issues such threats. Taking responsibility for your own actions is part of our legal and social system and it needs to be a universal value. MY country Canada does NOT NEED those who use pathetic excuses for men who rape and kill. Such attitudes whould be a bar to citizenship. Be civilized in the way it is meant in this country or leave.
Javad said...
Acharya S your funny. at first I was pissed off but now you make me laugh!!! I'm Shia and am aainst wahabism but come on, billions of dollars from oil and dominance?? say that to David Rockefeller and he's gonna laugh at you, you know why? coz he has 300 trillion dollars and hasn't managed to achieve the new world order which he wishes for. I know where all this attacking of Islam comes from, it comes from the Illuminati and when the world economy collapses they are going to start creating a one world government and I have no doubt the first people who are going to oppose the new world order are going to be Muslims, and thats why they are trying hard to destroy Islam, they will do this not to save humanity from "Islam" but they do it for money, power and full dominance of earth and I mean everything on earth.
Anyways jut stop being a pain in the ass and try to save your own country coz its fallen in that hands of bad people.
Yes, I'm quite sure that David Rockefeller wasn't behind the Arab expansion that enslaved your country under a cult of death some 1,300 years ago. But, you have no concern about that fact. Instead you are mindlessly cackling and attempting to get Rense to stop exposing the abuses of Islam that are threatening to enslave the whole of humankind.
I am trying to save my own country, obviously, since I do not want the U.S. Constitution to be usurped by sharia law. Nor, again, do I wish to become a Muslim or to have my descendants be enslaved by Islam.
In your blindness to the cult that has enslaved you, you are completely oblivious to the abuses that are already occurring in Europe and the U.S. You are so obsessively concerned with what I'm doing; yet, in the meantime in the U.S. right now there are little girls having their genitals mutilated - often in the name of Islam.
You are obviously young and inexperienced in the real world. Please stop being an enabler to the enslavement under a false ideology.
Ok, now I know you have a psychological quirk. What do you mean I don't want to go there with Palestinians? I am Palestinian. The destruction of Palestine and the Palestinian people IS my family history of which you are completely ignorant. No one can take you seriously if you're worried about Moslem domination....Moslem countries are being destroyed and irradiated. If you're worried about domination you'd be attacking zionism. Are you sure you're not a disinfo agent?
I agree, taking responsibility for your own actions is something that society should be. As a pragmatist of course, I know that it is irresponsible to tempt people unnecessarily. This is all too easy to see with today's politicians who are abusing their power because they can.
The burka rule was made during the medieval times - a times when your ancestors were probably barbarians too. Why certain parts of islamic culture have not evolved to the modern era, I don't know. But realize that it wasn't a long time ago that women could not vote. Even today children cannot vote and we still have unofficial gender/age/race discrimination today. We just have to accept the fact that people are not perfect and that we ourselves have faults that we must better as well.
And although there are some things I do not like in some cultures - I realize that poeple will be people. And even if we somehow "correct" the cultures of today, there is no guarantee that the cultures of tommorow will be any better. Therefore, I do not think that confrontation is necessarily the best answer to address these issues. We must think of a way to eliminate the potential of such things happening (assuming they even can be eliminated, which I suspect they cannot without eliminating free will), and not short term methods which might make things better or might make things worse (I suspect that in this case it is a little of both).
And how knows, maybe there is a karmic purpose to all this burka madness. Suffering is one of the methods by which humans can advance spiritually. It is not one of the best methods - but sometimes for some individuals it might be the only method. I'm not saying that we should address the issue - but maybe also possibly be aware that perhaps that if we correct one type of problem, another type of problem may pop up because there is something underlying that is needs to be addressed first.
my final comment. acharya your just a blogger not a scholar so what your saying is not important.
What Role Does Islam Play in World War Three?
WW2 Propaganda Repeated in WW3
http://www.threeworldwars.com/more/islam.htm
caldude, dude stop wasting your time she's a just a blogger in a "free" country.
Acharya S is the only person that can do this.
AND IT HAS TO BE DONE.
Apologies to the offense people might take. But the fact of the matter.
Religion are cults based on mythical ideologies. They are designed as a "phantom rule" or a secondary rule. Oppression is one thing, but self oppression is your own choosing.
Islam is the only rising religion that is a system of "Primary Rule". I myself have spend nearly 20 years criticizing Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism.
Acharya is right on the money here!
Its time for Islam to come under the scientific scrutiny it deserves.
Whether you are moderate or not. Too bad.
Of any religion its constituents are usually stronger and more fanatical in their faith than their ordain leaders.
They are better controlled and self regulated.
caldude, You cannot be serious! Have you not paid attention to anything on Rense? What is it about the myth of "Christianity" that has you so incapable of freeing yourself from? Is it the community? the Friends? Don't tell me its Jesus Christ!
And to the argument of "scientists" in Iran. Good grief, born into a system of FEAR forces people to follow any fake idol you throw at them for fear of their own life.
Humanity needs to grow up.
Sunru
caldude said...
Ok, now I know you have a psychological quirk. What do you mean I don't want to go there with Palestinians? I am Palestinian. The destruction of Palestine and the Palestinian people IS my family history of which you are completely ignorant. No one can take you seriously if you're worried about Moslem domination....Moslem countries are being destroyed and irradiated. If you're worried about domination you'd be attacking zionism. Are you sure you're not a disinfo agent?
I see, you didn't bother to watch the video by Brigitte Gabriel, so you are going to insult me instead.
I guess I need to preface my remarks with the disclaimer that unlike the typical pedestrian human mind, I do not engage in tu quoque fingerpointing and distraction away from the issue. To wit, by criticizing Palestinian Muslim culture, I am not defending Israel. But those who do engage in this pedestrian mentality are seemingly incapable of seeing that both sides are engaged in atrocities. On the other hand, if you were to give me a choice of what cultural dominance I, as a woman, would prefer to live under, if forced, there would be no question that Israel is a far better place for women.
Using your pedestrian tactics, if you disagree with that fact, you must be a sexist, misogynist ("woman-hating") agent of some sort.
There is much more - I hope you aren't saying you actually defend HAMAS?
Hamas Mickey Mouse Teaches Terror to Kids
Palestinian Child Abuse: Kids of Female Suicide Bomber
Palestinian Honor Killings
Brigitte Gabriel Discusses Lebanon
I'm not really interested in getting into the Palestine-Israel debate. The whole thing is sickening. However, anyone taking the side of Hamas and Hezbollah is out of his mind - and that is a serious "psychological quirk."
As concerns Muslim domination, when a significant portion of some 1.5 billion people are agitating to take over the world and are saying, "We will take over your country through the bellies of our women," we are supposed to IGNORE them? Especially when we have before us the example that is occurring in Europe right now, as we waste time debating nonsense?
Again, I'm not the one with a "psychological quirk." Those who ignore the trends of the world with their heads in the sand are the ones with the problem, frankly.
The Religion of Peace
The Truth About Islam
The UK, as far as I know, is not being systematically irradiated, on the surface we are still free to express an opinion. Unless of course that opinion involves Islam.
Thankfully the Archbishop of Canterbury was shot down in flames for suggesting that Britain accept aspects of Shariah Law, but the old comments about Islamaphobia were duly trotted out, and now all news comment has ceased. He has not retracted or been required to retract his views, even defending them in the media.
We are awaiting the next salvo from some misguided liberal.
Meanwhile I see women in my neighbourhood wearing the burqa to deliver their children to a Church of England School. The little girls wearing a headscarf with their school uniform, and brainwashed teenagers wanting to wear another variation of the dress to school, and being championed to do so, by Cherie Blair in the court of Human Rights in Brussels.
History is littered with the corpses of women who fought repression, but this time we have education enough to see what is being planned for our future.
I will happily boycott Nike, who of course, use women as poorly paid labour in their factories. Most of the women I know though would accuse me of hating Islam if I broached the subject with them, they simply aren't interested.
I am thankful for your bravery in standing up to the violent abuse that you truth has brought about. There doesn't have to be an argument about the real meaning of Islam, these abusers and name callers say it all.
Thankfully the Archbishop of Canterbury was shot down in flames for suggesting that Britain accept aspects of Shariah Law, but the old comments about Islamaphobia were duly trotted out, and now all news comment has ceased. He has not retracted or been required to retract his views, even defending them in the media.
I'm glad he was too. I ranted for days over his remarks. Acharya can vouch for that. There's a whole thread about him on her board. If he is not careful, he will have to preach Mary was the sister of Aaron and not Miriam. He'll be saying Mary shook the tree to get fruit while complaining about the pain of childbirth. *rolling eyes* He won't have to worry about telling people around Christmas time "the virgin birth is a legend" because that will not be allowed to be preach to begin with because it's not in the Koran.
Exactly Carol Webb,
Islam needs to be objectively criticized for what it is, just another CULT.
The problem, is we all grew up understanding Christianity. We know what its about, some of us even choose to fall into it more deeply, or in my case, never fall for it at all.
But at least we have experience with it.
On the contrary we know very little about Islam.
Social sensitivities, conditioning and importantly fear itself is restricting our ability confront it. Its important to be to be objectively critical, mature, and importantly to stay focused on the real issue.
To people like Javad, caldude. Remember, this is;
Not about Zionism
Not about Israel
Not about Palestine or any other nation.
Not about Christianity or any other religion.
Not about personalities and individuals (you or me)
Its about Islam.
So what in hell are you afraid of? (pun intended). Lets get started then.
Sunru.
Dont listen to this pot smoking feminist retard. Typical man hater, bitches because women are expoloted in Western culture then pisses and wines when they want put a scarf on their head. She must have a lot of emotional problems - probably because nobody asked this homely bitch out at her high school prom.
The same things being said about muslims were said about jews before nazi germany took over. There was a movement to preserve german culture by critisizing jews and the fact that they were taking over german industry (and many of them were in high positions of power - but that wasn't so much a conspiracy so much as jewish people tend to be more successful and have higher IQ's on average than most other people).
You're falling into the same trap of pre-emption logic that says "I think my neighbor is a threat, therefore I have a right to remove that threat". That type of logic got us into the Iraqi war. You could justify nuking every other country that has a nuke using that kind of logic because they could be a threat (if not now, then later).
Israel is not a safe haven for women if you are prostitute and have been tricked into working as one there. Israel and Syria have some of the largest whorehouses in the middle east with Israel importing Eastern European women (sometimes tricking them into coming here), in deplorable conditions. While Syria's whorehouses are a result of the invasion of Iraq with iraqi refuges coming into syrian serving Saudi men (some of the women I heard were as young as 10 years old). I have not confirmed either story personally of course - but there are several reports of each on the internet.
Anonymous said...
The same things being said about muslims were said about jews before nazi germany took over. There was a movement to preserve german culture by critisizing jews and the fact that they were taking over german industry (and many of them were in high positions of power - but that wasn't so much a conspiracy so much as jewish people tend to be more successful and have higher IQ's on average than most other people).
Would that be these Nazis?
Anonymous said...
Dont listen to this pot smoking feminist retard. Typical man hater, bitches because women are expoloted in Western culture then pisses and wines when they want put a scarf on their head. She must have a lot of emotional problems - probably because nobody asked this homely bitch out at her high school prom.
This says a lot about your dislike of intelligent women who will not submit to your will. This is complete and total caveman mentality.
THE TRUTH WILL SET U FREE
ACHARYA WHY R U EXTREEM GAY ?
THAT IS UR PROBLEM.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE U.S.A TODAY TOO MUCH FREEDOM FOR GAYS LEADING TO CHILD RAPE BY THE CATHOLIC
PRIESTS AND ROME IS HUSH HUSH ABOUT IT.READ THE PAPERS ,WATCH THE NEWS.
Yawn! It is known fact that women are oppressed and paid less than men in USA and Europe. Islam never degrades women. As matter of fact veiling also mentioned in the bible. For christian women, they not allowed to preach without covering their head, read this http://www.thebricktestament.com/epistles_of_paul/instructions_for_women/1co11_04.html not only that, women are mentioned many times in the bible or OT to be inferior than men here few verses
"....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss. (From the New Jerusalem Bible, Ecclesiasticus 22:3)"
Deuteronomy 22:28-30 "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives."
Exodus 21:7-8 "And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl, she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out. If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master so that he doesn't designate her as a concubine but causes her to be redeemed, he will not be entitled to sell her to a foreign people in his treacherously dealing with her."
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "And in case men struggle together (in a fight) with one another, and the wife of the one has come near to deliver her husband out of the striking one (to save her husband), and she has thrust out her hand and grabbed hold of his private (the other man's groin), she must then get both her hands cut off, and the eyes of the men must feel no sorrow."
Many more!
You shouldn't focusing on those Afghans, they wear burqa even before islam reached that area it is more to culture! Why people so concern about muslims women being oppressed with veils, you guys not feeling bad how women are exploited in this world, how people like Britney spears, paris hilton etc had to show their bits to be fame? You should be so concern about how bombs killing women in Iraq or how US troops gang raped a 14 years old girl or you lost your interest because she wore veil? Islam is not a new religion but continuation of religion of God on earth. Anyway, I think you need to know islam first so, you could talk from a non-bias opinion, understand your opponent even if you don't like them.
Go here http://www.islam-guide.com
I give you new job, read this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/1488437.stm
Please talk about it than worrying about burqa.
regards
Acharya S, Please moderate.
Responding to such posts wastes time and drains your resources.
Too exhausting to deal with.
You don't need the approval of these people, nor do you need to enter into a discussion/debate with them. You are way more intelligent for these "blogger" rage posts. They are incapable of debating you, since they are afflicted with illogical and irrational minds to begin with.
But, you are going to get ALOT more.
So..
Good luck.
Sunru
Dont listen to this pot smoking feminist retard. Typical man hater, bitches because women are expoloted in Western culture then pisses and wines when they want put a scarf on their head. She must have a lot of emotional problems - probably because nobody asked this homely bitch out at her high school prom.
Quite an intelligent response from a fudge-packing alcoholic. Must have a hate on for women, because he was too ugly for the ugliest of women to get a date. Now we are on the same level shit-dipper! heh heh!
Sunru said...
Exactly Carol Webb,
Islam needs to be objectively criticized for what it is, just another CULT.
The problem, is we all grew up understanding Christianity. We know what its about, some of us even choose to fall into it more deeply, or in my case, never fall for it at all.
But at least we have experience with it.
On the contrary we know very little about Islam.
Social sensitivities, conditioning and importantly fear itself is restricting our ability confront it. Its important to be to be objectively critical, mature, and importantly to stay focused on the real issue.
To people like Javad, caldude. Remember, this is;
Not about Zionism
Not about Israel
Not about Palestine or any other nation.
Not about Christianity or any other religion.
Not about personalities and individuals (you or me)
Its about Islam.
So what in hell are you afraid of? (pun intended). Lets get started then.
Sunru.
Exactly Sunru! Yes...people stay on subject and refrain from peronal attacks, name-calling. This is about Islam, it's fascist woman hating doctrine and practise.
Anon., we know what the Bible says and few Christians follow it today. Why? Because it is oppressive and it was for another time for a different culture than today. Also, god is a human concept and from what I can tell, Islam does not have the same deity as Christians and Jews. It's a totally different one. That and Christians are learning that what is in the Bible are just stories and not meant to be taken literally, unless they are Evangelicals who do take the Bible literally.
They are incapable of debating you, since they are afflicted with illogical and irrational minds to begin with.
That they are, Sunru. They have no where near the education of Acharya and are totally brainwashed.
Anonymous said...
...probably because nobody asked this homely bitch out at her high school prom.
I take it you've never seen the photo of Acharya published along with her book, The Christ Conspiracy. Had I gone to high school with her, I would have asked her to the prom in a New York minute! Beauty and brains, too. So much for you to hate. The green monster rears its ugly head again.
The problem is gay men did not design the Burka, therefore it is oppressive...
Now we all know if a bunch of homosexuals designed the headscarves it would be considered sexy...
And of course this never happened:
A woman who reported a vicious attack by an ad-hoc "modesty patrol" on a Jerusalem bus last month is now lining up support for her case and may be included in a petition to the High Court of Justice over the legality of sex-segregated buses.
Miriam Shear says she was traveling to pray at the Western Wall in Jerusalem's Old City early on November 24 when a group of ultra-Orthodox (Haredi) men attacked her for refusing to move to the back of the Egged No. 2 bus.
There are no segregated buses in Israel. So obviously this woman is a liar, similiar to Clarence Thomas not sexually harassing a woman...
The FBI is crazy...
The FBI estimates that 72 of every 100,000 females in the United States were raped last year. (Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform Crime Statistics, 1996.)
That just is a complete and total lie. It never happened...
All of this is also a fabrication:
Risk factors for perpetrating sexual violence include: early sexual experience (both forced and voluntary),6 adherence by men to sex role stereotyping,7,8 negative attitudes of men towards women,6,9,,10,11,12, alcohol consumption,8,13 acceptance of rape myths by men.8,9,12,14,15
What is important though is that gay men be given the right to design clothing for women in Islamic ME countries. This is very important, the future of all humanity depends on homosexual men making women look attractive to straight males. Without that, sanctions, bombings, illegal invasions, the usual romance of war, will be carried out against Muslim women and children, in order to liberate them...
Do not mention the Amish, I repeat the Amish have total right to force their women to cover their hair and not be authorized to drive a car...
Welcome to Zionist logic...
Acharya S - your fear mongering sounds closely aligned to the neocon agenda. "Fear Muslims, invade for women's rights" You have to know who you serve. Your comments only spread fear and hate.
Muslim "extremism, islamism, jihadiasm, wahabism, salafism, TERRORISM!" (call it what you want) is a response to Western colonialism and occupation. Don't invade and occupy Muslim countries and you will witness these sentiments dissipate. History has proven that any oppressed people who's land, property, blood or honour is put in jeopardy will resist by any means necessary. http://www.whydoyoukillzaid.com/en/10-theses/all-of-the-ten-theses.html#c336
You talk of enslavement of people to Islam when it appears as though most if not all in the West are willing slaves Hedonism. "Sexually satisfied people are healthy and happy." Promote promescuity, masterbation, adultery as a utopia and watch society crumble apart. I think women who believe that sexual liberation and immodest dress is freedom are closer to slavery psycologically than any covered women. Perhaps when you have children (if you haven't already) you will begin to realize the need for some social limitations out of compassion.
http://www.rense.com/general29/deb.htm
Acharya, as a women activist who is concerned about the future I think it would be more suitable to criticize and focus on a solution to the brainwashed slave minded Briteny Spears generation that is arising in the West rather than blogging neocon thoughts by hate mongering other nations. Let Muslims deal with their issues and Westerners deal with Western issues. It's too easy to spend a lifetime critisizing something that one has little influence over.
The Muslim religion and the Christian religion are both spawns of the Jew death meme. Who the Jews would conquer they first dumb down. Race mixing is the key to the destruction of the white race. That is the race the Jews fear most.
Jews did 911 and all world wars. Jew Depression II is now rapidly forming. Jew WWIII will be soon perhaps this spring. Jews will feast on Goy baby Kosher slaughtered veal. Famine and cannibalism are soon to make their appearance as starvation is one of the favorite weapons of the Jew. See Jew Communist Bolshevic Russia and Gaza today.
Quit worrying about Burkas and get to the real problem: JEWS.
You will never see Acharya say much against the Jew as she is a Jew front disinformation organization.
http://www.Jews-Did-911.com
Name the jackals of war and profits from both sides.
to mr acharya or anyone of his ilk, you claim ot have whole truth and wish it to be known to all so i suggest you contact me on my email so that we can arrange a point by point meeting anywhere in the world on any issues of your concern regarding muslims and islam.
the only condition i impose is that you must get papers,radio and t.v stations of the jewish controlled media to cover the story so that the mass of humanity can get to hear your version of the truth and ours.
the greatest perverts and mass murderers in the world has beeen jews and christians throughout history,the jew hides behind christian names to do his evil work while the christian is generally a human brute as is evidenced by the nearly 100 million dead in the 2nd world war and for what???
the greatest civilizing force in the world has, is and was islam to date of mankind.
if some muslims are bad does not make islam bad, but if you consider any other communities like us we are far ahead in piety,sobriety,decency,humanity etc, etc. there is no other community like us on the face of the earth.
i have laid down the challenge and you have my email, write to me and we will come to address your charges anywhere in the world cost permitting.
This is just another bash at Islam. Opression against women is a cultural phenomenon, from various cultures, including, arab, indian, african, and european, in fact in every nation and culture women have been abused by their male counterparts.
Regarding Islam, it came to the arabs and it brought about womens' rights to them when they, the arabs used to bury their daughters alive.
If people practice the evils of their culture while professing to be followers of any faith, then those individuals are addressed as evil, abusive and opressive. However when that evil individual however ignorant he may be of his faith and how non practising he may be of his faith, if he professes to follow Islam by mere lip service, then his evil is blamed on Islam. This is purely a tactic to deride a religion you don't have much knowledge or understanding of. In the end you will achieve nothing except whatever reward your maliciousness brings. There have been worse enemies of Islam than you, yet Islam will prevail as it it meant to.
Regarding the abuse of women, by whomever it is done, muslim, christian, jew, athiest, zionist, satanist, those individuals should be made to undergo the abuse they have caused to experience the trauma and damage they have done to their victims.
My wife wears the hijaab on her own accord, I have asked her to remove it or leave and she would consider it an abuse or opression if I forced her not to wear the hijaab. So if you want to force women who wnat to don the hijaab, then does that not equate you with those abusers and opressors who force women to wear the hijaab?
Acharya...I started to watch that video and then I saw that it was a Lebanese bimbo (there are many) speaking to the heritage foundation. Was that supposed to convince me of anything? There are Lebanese in my family. They've been trying to distance themselves from Arabs for forever....they think they're "cosmopolitan" Europeans. As for Hamas, I guess you've swallowed everything the zionist media has programmed you to swallow. For all the knuckleheads crying from European countries about laws protecting Moslems, that's what the global elite have planned. Moslems didn't make those laws. The global elite have encouraged moslem immigration to European countries as they have Latin people to the U.S. They want to ignite a clash of civilizations. Every religion has their extreme lunatics like the Moslem dad who kills his daughter for dating a western man. That's the exception not the rule. Every religous fanatic who resorts to violence and war is a joke and a menace to humanity. If you would do a minimum of research you would find out that both World Wars and the countless other wars have been sparked, nurtured and funded by global elite from western society. The threat to humanity right now is NOT the moslems and your obsession with it is pretty freaky.
Now all of a sudden we should be boycotting Nike for making swimsuits for Muslims??
How about boycotting them for using sweat shop/child labor to make their products??
This is ridiculous.
You don't have to be a Jew to hate Islam. Islam is revolting in itself without any help from the outside.
There's nothing "freaky" about exposing a mental cancer. What's "freaky" are all those people so willing to defend this disease.
Rock on, AS!
Islam is an evil cancer on this world. a religion that covers it's women in bags and in rags should become extinct. I'm sorry that so much of this world is covered with this darkness.
My wife wears the hijaab on her own accord, I have asked her to remove it or leave and she would consider it an abuse or opression if I forced her not to wear the hijaab. So if you want to force women who wnat to don the hijaab, then does that not equate you with those abusers and opressors who force women to wear the hijaab?
I would have to ask her what she is afraid of she doesn't wear the hijaab? It would seem to me a self-conscious act, one that stems from low self-esteem. Then again, there maybe a different psychology behind it, but whatever the case, it would be interesting to know why she desires to hide herself.
"Anon said...
"My wife wears the hijaab on her own accord, I have asked her to remove it or leave and she would consider it an abuse or opression if I forced her not to wear the hijaab. So if you want to force women who wnat to don the hijaab, then does that not equate you with those abusers and opressors who force women to wear the hijaab?"
Mriana said...
I would have to ask her what she is afraid of she doesn't wear the hijaab? It would seem to me a self-conscious act, one that stems from low self-esteem. Then again, there maybe a different psychology behind it, but whatever the case, it would be interesting to know why she desires to hide herself.
No one is suggesting forcing someone to remove anything on their head, although I would certainly ban the burkha, which is a full-length head-to-toe covering that also obscures the face. The hijab is a head covering that does not obscure the face. It is little different from a nun's habit, and no one is trying to take away those. If a woman is wearing a hijab out of choice made as a consenting adult, that's one thing. But if she's been forced to wear it because of beatings - as in Iran and other Muslim countries - then that's evil. Many girls are coerced into "choosing" to wear the hijab through psychological damage, as Mriana states. Indeed, many women who become nuns have been abused or suffer other reason for low self-esteem.
If women are dressing like this because they believe - based on what they've been taught - that "God" desires it, that is also wrong, since "God" by definition could not care less whether or not the beautiful hair of "his" own creation is covered up. In fact, it could be argued that any such "god" as creator of the cosmos should be insulted by the very notion that women should cover up "his" beautiful handiwork.
In the end, a woman who has been "damaged into" covering up her hair or the rest of her body through force or fear of "God" represents the epitome of irreligiousness and ungodliness.
If a girl is not raised to believe that her hair is a sexual object and an offense to "God," she will likely have absolutely NO interest in covering her hair, unless for purposes of comfort, i.e., warmth.
Let's try to get back to a healthy state - this sort of thing done because of fear or religion is simply neurotic. And most definitely a sign of oppression.
Acharya S,
You certainly have found a way to enliven your forums. Bush has increased Muslim immigration against the wishes of the electorate. When are we going to allow the American public to decide who and how many get to move to this nation I wonder?
During the Middle Ages, Christian women wore the conservative garb and the Muslim world was free-thinking. Christians were burnt as witches, freely raped by nobles as a right of title, and a jihad to eliminate Jews and Muslims in "the holy land" (the Crusades) was roused every few decades or so. In the 1200's when the biggest library in Christendom was a monastery/university containing 12,000-14,000 books, the Muslim library in Cordoba (Spain) contained 350,000 books (I visited the city, where the history is well known. Books about science and al-gebra, the classics were smuggled from the "free" Muslim world, which patronized the arts, to the oppressed, very backward Christian areas. That's what began "the Renaissance," believe it or not.
Right on, NotaSlave.
The problem is I don't think Muslims in general have realised how hard it will be to sell to Westerners that believing in the mishmashed religious distortions promulgated by a 7th century murdering , polygamous, arab paedophile is a very good idea.
Especially seeing the results of these teachings. I'd ask the readers to cast their minds back to any of the myriad of recent seriously criminal and inhuman incidents - beheadings of men and woman, 9/11 in New York, Beslan in Russia, slicing off the limgs of living human beings for relatively petty offences, 'honour' killings etc etc. After all these events - where is the vociferous outcry by Muslims denouncing of these deeds and capturing and punishing the criminals who perpetrate them? Instead their silence suggests tacit approval. Why is it up to westerners to point out the criminality of these events?
The biggest insult to God (whatever you define that to be) is to hear 'Allahu Akbar' as they pull the trigger, slash with the sword, strike with the knife etc etc .
It IS an evil death cult and has no respect for or understanding of the rights of the individual to think and act to the dicates of their own cosnscience. All the great spiritual masters taught that the highest consciousness was innate in every human being and therefore that ALL human beings are to be respected for their potential.
Sufism is closest to the truth in Islam yet Sufis are seen as heretics by the masses. At least they realise that 'God' is an internal